How do we expect people to understand, when clearly we don't understand eachother, I will use the most common one I hear of, plus my own isue.
The hate I still for the life of me can't understand is the hate toward alicorn OCs. I know a lot of alicorn OC users and people who dislike them, I used to, then after I talked to a friend about theirs, they told me it wasn't for the imortality (most alicorn OCs aren't anyway), or the overpowered combo of magic and flying, and that is what 99% of peoplecomplain about. It was them trying to be unique, which brings me to the next point, I made my OC trying to be creative, but because of his color and wings some people want him gone, they can't do that, so they hate on me. I have not met one brony hater who was not themselves a brony, only ones that are bronies, so I think hate within the fandom is a biggeer problem then people outside the fandom, and needs to be attended to ASAP.
Is anyone / anypony with me?
Thank you for reading, and your time.
Oh, and please comment your opinion, and/or whether you are with me on this.
Everyone is unique. That's why we hate alicorn OCs, it's a sign of the person's lack in seeing other people as special. People respect good character, humor, an interesting personality to shine, not bells and whistles.
It's like the guy with the giant hummer trying find a parking space on a crammed city street wondering why everyone is glaring at him. If you can't handle the hate, get off the street. If you can handle it, fine and if not, then don't do it. The last thing we want to hear is people whining. We want optimism, humor and fun. That's why we like MLP:FIM.
Not ALL our journals are like this, don't you think you're a liiiiitle bit overreacting? XD
The fact i disagree with you, doesn't mean i don't want to hear your comment. That would be ignorant.
Note: I definately hear ya on that. i don't understand how people can find ponies sexually attractive and i'm also not a fan of NSFW art. the fact people depict derpy as retarded is overreaction at its worst. Derpy means "Clumsy" not "downer".
But have you ever thought about the fact not only the bronies clop and that only a small portion of the fandom is into that stuff? Furries and feteshists also clop, some people only like MLP for the NSFW art and then they call themselves "brony"or MLP fan. it is those people and the rabid fans that give our fandom a bad name. I'm going to help you out of your dream, nowadays "mlp fan" and Brony" have nearly become a synonym and because of your age and interest in MLP people will assume you're a brony. personally i question why you want to avoid the word "brony". every fandom has it's rabids and dramas, the pony fandom is no exception. yes a lot of bad stuff happens, but is that all you see?
The bronies Raised over 60000$ for the childrens cancer association and other charity projects. Some sketches by lauren faust have been sold for a couple of 1000$ for charity, Bronies are one of the most social,open-minded,friendly,deviant and artistic people i know. i know like no other what happens in our fandom, but i myself am NOT like that, i'm proud to be a brony and a part of the new pacifist movement after the hippies in the 60's and the rastas in the 80's. Violence and revenge is good for nothing and when i hate people like they hate me i am no better, it's not being a coward : it's being the better man.
Bronies should stand up against the disapproving majority, not to fight with each other. We can disagree with each other over who's the best pony (Fluttershy), but it should not turn into hatred. Most of us, though we complain a lot, are open-minded enough to accept new changes to the show. Open-mindedness is what brought is to the show. Why don't we stay open to others' opinions?
((Is this qualified for a speech? Because I might use this for future discussions))
I don't like "Mature" content many people post, actually, I really hate that kind of stuff, but that doesn't mean I will be going from post to post being a jerk when I found one, just ignore it and keep your way. And go ahead, call me hypocrite because I did threw some hate comments one time when I was having a really really reeeeally bad time and I kind of explode (trust me, nobody deserves be under that kind of stress...) but I did apologize for being such a pain on the plot.
TLDR: when you dislike something don't be a bully, just be polite, be kind, be constructive and most important... "Love and tolerate". You will be happier and feel much better that way.
*raises hoof* I'm in!
things are crazy with haters in every fandom, really... I'm dealing with something similar in the "Teen Titan" fandom with that new 2013 show they made where they turned the old show into something like a "gumball/family guy" combo. Personally, I hate the show, but I admit the few good points and I don't rip ponies to shreds for liking it. ((and I think everyone has an "inner-pony", so even non bronies I call "ponies" when I'm speaking through my self-insert-OC... such as now ))
the problem you mention is a bit different, as most hate towards the TT 2012 comes from outside the fandom, but hate is hate. It's unfair and poorly managed. I may hate things, but I don't believe anypony should tear another to pieces for doing their fandom their way. I may critique other ponies, sometimes harshly, but I at least TRY to be nice about it. What's to gain from being mean about it?
This whole ridiculous mess makes me want to create an alicorn MLP OC just to spite the haters
I think they may be thinking of Mary Sues, having too much power. And I hate Mary Sues as well as anypony, in fact I just entered a contest that was to create a Mary Sue Sailor Moon Sailor Scout. I did such a good job writing her stats that I have a lot of people telling me I'm going to win, but I think there are a couple of people who may win over me
We Sue haters love this kind of thing, cuz it's a joke, but we SO hate real Sues. I met one last week, but I'm not going to hurt anypony for wanting a Mary Sue.
But not every Alicorn is a Mary Sue automatically. It's kind of like writing a Master Chief fanfiction (which I'm trying to plan out right now for my friend IT'S HARD BECAUSE-->) he's so strong/powerful and smart and on the snarky side sometimes--by the end of Halo 4 he's even "evolved" genetically by an alien to be better than any other human existent! it makes him "too good" and so I have to find ways to make the plot work against him, and try to make him look bad sometimes without going OOC. If I don't do it that way, he's too Mary Sue ((DONT TELL HALO FANS I SAID THAT)) With an overpowered character, you have to make the plot work specifically to bring out what little flaws they have, and a dash of humiliation here and there. Even if they're too cool-headed to be humiliated, they can still LOOK bad visually while making their "I don't care" pose. After that "evolution" I was thinking "oh, maaaaaaaan... Mary Suuuuuuuuuuuee...!" but they pulled it off well, in my opinion.
It's all about writing and plot. If you make your OC's personalities well-rounded enough, who cares if they're an alicorn? They're not a Mary Sue. And if they happen to be emotionally strong, strategic, they don't panic, and they're resourceful (all that being "Mary Sue"), then work certain plot angles against them. Just try not to go overboard in laying it on them, cuz that's the "feel sorry for my Mary Sue cuz they're so unfortunate" move. Even when the OC doesn't get all sad, it can still be a "Sue plot move".
A good example was when the guy in Halo 4 (sorry if you haven't seen it, I'll explain ) demanded that Master Chief be arrested and that the ship's crew wasn't going to bother trying to stop Didact from killing Earth, because they didn't believe Master Chief when he told them the news. It was... on the cliché side, and not as well written as I think it could have been. Not to mention that they wanted to delete Chief's A.I. because she was falling apart (it's a kind of A.I. insanity called "rampancy" that's like A.I. rabies sort of...) but he tells them "no" cuz she's his friend. It was a very "look how tough Chief is" moment that bordered being "Mary Sue", made a little worse by the A.I. acting all scared about being deleted, begging for her life.
They pulled it off, but it was kind of a "realistic freebie". When something's realistic enough, it's OK even if it's Mary Sue, because you're writing it the way it would happen for real.
And I have just realized that I'm rambling well, before I put my back-hoof in my mouth, I'll start shutting up >///< Just a few basics for making any OC, keep it real, write it honest, and let the haters bang their heads on their own walls. Stand up for yourself when they come around, be adult about it (regardless of your actual age) and give them no mind at all. Every now and then make a journal about it, with some examples, to remind ponies that they shouldn't let it all get them down and that even through the haters, all the non-haters are still united!
We're still here for each other! Haters are everywhere.... if anything, their hate brings us closer to the nicer ponies only if we support each other will the weaker ponies survive. So many are so easily discouraged and even sometimes abandon their fandom for fear of getting hate... if they had more support, not white knights or enablers, but "supporters" and friends, they'd be fine. They could become stronger from the experience and live much happier.
Isnt Equestria and Ponyville all about the happy ending? Well, that happy ending doesn't make itself! MLP teaches us that doesn't it? (
so does every other story with impending evil, but ignore that!) We make our own happy endings, but the "happiest" ones are where were together.
and if that's too mushy gushy, then you're in the wrong fandom, baby! I'm changing my profile icon to be my self-insert MLP OC, "Glitter Spin", over this
haters.... talk to the hoof!! (yes, I went to corny-dom for that line)
Personally i'm not fond of these types of journals but you've put a good issue in the spotlight here. why do people hate Allicorn OC's when there are also mary-sue/badly designed earth ponies,pegasi and unicorns? the answer is simple :
because our fandom is so diverse. because of all the luvs and tollerances a lot of different people got to join our fandom regardless of their gender,sexuality, age and opinions. there are different types of bronies withing bronydom itself and THE steriotype brony does not exist. appearently some of the bronies can't handle allicorns. these people need attention, so don't reply and just hide their comments. simpel as that.
I have asperger syndrome for example and sometimes the things i say or do can bother people (without me knowing it), when people give me a hint or tell me to cut it out i appreciate that, i don't see that as people trying to change me. it's people HELPING me and confronting me with my flaws, it helps me AND society. In life we all have our qualities and flaws, of course it's harsh to confronted with your negative aspects, but at the end of the day people helped me.
Changing people is impossible by the way, people are who they are. we just have to be there for eachother as a society to make sure we show an equal ammount of respect for eachother, nothing bad about it. so yes if people hate on Alicorns you don't have to convince or force them to not do so anymore, but you CAN ask them to keep it to themselves so they don't spoil the fun and hurt feelings.
That's good for me,you,them and bronydom as a whole.